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Name That Ant #138 (13 January 2011) [big image file size]

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Doctorant	Name That Ant #138 (13 January 2011) [big image file size]		Lead	[-]
Posts: 3859 01/13/2011 2:14 PM Doc. and Soldier Ant	[revised the title and added a note about a big file size into the title --antdude] Edited 2 times by antdude 01/13/2011 8:24 PM.
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ABM		#1	[url]	[-]
Henchant Posts: 1007 01/13/2011 7:37 PM	WOW! What a wonderful photo. I am stunned!
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AntsAustralia		#2	[url]	[-]
Young Worker Ant Posts: 50 01/14/2011 1:32 AM	Monomorium sp?? Maybe Monomorium rubriceps?? I really have no idea!
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Harpegnathos		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1350 01/14/2011 12:47 PM U.S. Army VeterANT/Soldier	Not a Monomorium, unless my eyes deceive me. I think I see spines on the propodeum.
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MrILoveTheAnts		#4	[url]	[-]
TAFAMF Addict Posts: 4654 01/14/2011 6:58 PM	I'm guessing Aphaenogaster tennesseensis. (Also I have a NTA to submit sometime.) MrILoveTheAnt's Blog, Youtube, & "Native Plants for Honeybees"
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Doctorant		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3859 01/15/2011 11:04 AM Doc. and Soldier Ant	You have to tell us why you think so MrILTA, or Harpegnathos might be stingy about giving you points. :~)
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Ant Catcher11		#6	[url]	[-]
Henchant Posts: 1319 01/15/2011 11:41 AM	I can provide an explain why I agree with him. I believe it is A. tennesseensis because it apparently lacks striae around the postpetiole and its postpetiole is wider than it is long. Edited 1 time by Ant Catcher11 01/15/2011 11:45 AM.
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MrILoveTheAnts		#7	[url]	[-]
TAFAMF Addict Posts: 4654 01/15/2011 12:30 PM	Also they're covered in tiny white spots. I think they're the only species that comes in such bright coloring on a regular basis too. The only thing that makes me think I'm wrong is the spines don't seem long enough. MrILoveTheAnt's Blog, Youtube, & "Native Plants for Honeybees"
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PHiL		#8	[url]	[-]
Major Worker Ant Posts: 315 01/15/2011 4:50 PM	Hm, nice ant It's as far as I can see a Myrmicinae, but I'm not sure about the genus. Myrmica or others doesn't look like that, the most probable is Aphaenogaster. There are many species I didn't seen before. But from the pictures of antweb I assume Aphaenogaster fulva because the spines are shorter than of A. tennesseensis (as it seems on the picture). Greetings, Phil my blog
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Doctorant	Another ant, same species	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3859 01/17/2011 11:49 AM Doc. and Soldier Ant
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Chuck		#10	[url]	[-]
Henchant Posts: 1021 01/18/2011 7:49 AM	I'm going to guess Aphaenogaster mariae. It seems to be the best fit for both the way the thorax is shaped and the coloration to me. Aphaenogaster fulva was a close second, so that would be my second guess if I'm allowed to make two guesses. My Current Journals: Aphaenogaster fulva Aphaenogaster rudis Camponotus castaneus Camponotus chromaiodes Camponotus pennsylvanicus Camponotus pennsylvanicus (rescued mature colony) Camponotus subbarbatus Formica pallidefulva Myrmica americana Pheidole Ponera pennsylvanica (My current attempt at starting a colony)
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saL		#11	[url]	[-]
Major Worker Ant Posts: 426 01/20/2011 5:17 PM	MrILoveTheAnts wrote: I'm guessing Aphaenogaster tennesseensis. (Also I have a NTA to submit sometime.) I second this guess.
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Ant Catcher11		#12	[url]	[-]
Henchant Posts: 1319 01/21/2011 9:51 AM	Chuck wrote: I'm going to guess Aphaenogaster mariae. It seems to be the best fit for both the way the thorax is shaped and the coloration to me. Aphaenogaster fulva was a close second, so that would be my second guess if I'm allowed to make two guesses. I agree with Chuck's guess after looking at the second photo. Of three I was considering, A. tennesseensis, A. mariae and A. lamellidens, A. mariae fits best.
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Harpegnathos		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1350 01/27/2011 10:44 PM U.S. Army VeterANT/Soldier	My guess is Aphaenogaster tennesseensis. I don't see the striae on the gaster that would mark A. mariae. I don't see the frontal carinae well enough to eliminate A. lamellidens, so I'll just guess that the rearward-projecting tooth-like lobe isn't there. H Edited 1 time by Harpegnathos 01/28/2011 3:45 AM.
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Myrmecos2		#14	[url]	[-]
Major Worker Ant Posts: 305 01/28/2011 8:10 AM Doc.	I often see A. lamellidens confused with this species on the internet, but the near complete lack of erect setae suggests to me that those guessing A. tennesseensis are correct.
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Doctorant		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3859 01/28/2011 12:31 PM Doc. and Soldier Ant	That is what I was waiting to read, Alex! This NTA is solved! The lack of erect setae clearly distinguishes A. tennesseensis from all the other guesses. (Well wait, not sure about those in other genera...)
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Harpegnathos		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1350 01/29/2011 1:10 AM U.S. Army VeterANT/Soldier	I'll give MILTA his full 20 points, and he'll get 5 more if he posts his NTA. 10 points each for those who agreed with A. tennesseensis: saL, Myrmecos2, and Harpegnathos. Ant Catcher11 is busted back down to 5 points for changing his guess to A. mariae even though he previously noted the lack of striae that indicates it's something else. 5 points for Chuck and PHiL for correct genus. 5 bonus points for Myrmecos2 for identifying the lack of erect seta as an identifying characteristic of A. tennesseensis. That discriminator is not mentioned in the Ants of Mississippi key, but it seems pretty useful. Doctorant gets 5 points for posting this NTA. thanks, H
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Ant Catcher11		#17	[url]	[-]
Henchant Posts: 1319 01/29/2011 2:00 PM	I changed my guess because I was thinking that maybe the picture wasn't clear enough to show the striae. I just started second guessing myself the longer the thread stayed open.
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