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Seperated colonies make new scents? |
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Posts: 232 09/26/2004 6:36 PM
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I was wondering, if you took some ants from a nest, then maybe like a month or so later went and got more ants from the same nest in put them in with the ones you took earlier, will they get along?
The Mighty Carpenter 
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ant worker |
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Posts: 1534 09/26/2004 6:48 PM Banned User |
I think they make a new scent as I have read a few posts about someone going back to the original nest, getting workers, putting them in, and them fighting. So it depends, sometimes yes sometimes no. Some of the others might be able to clarify farther for you.
Moving all around screaming of the ups and downs. Pollution manifested in perpetual sound. The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind Street lamps, chain-link and concrete. A little piece of paper with a picture drawn floats On down the street till the wind is gone. The memory now is like the picture was then. When the papers crumpled up it cant be perfect again. linkin park |
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MrILoveTheAnts |
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TAFMF Addict Posts: 3121 09/26/2004 7:08 PM |
Now what if you slowly kept adding workers day after day?
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ant worker |
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Posts: 1534 09/26/2004 7:43 PM Banned User |
If you added workers everyday since you caught them then it would probably work, the scent wouldn't have time to become different before more workers came. I might try an expierment with introducing workers and how long the serparation is, I will see.
Moving all around screaming of the ups and downs. Pollution manifested in perpetual sound. The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind Street lamps, chain-link and concrete. A little piece of paper with a picture drawn floats On down the street till the wind is gone. The memory now is like the picture was then. When the papers crumpled up it cant be perfect again. linkin park |
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carpenterant |
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Posts: 232 09/26/2004 8:03 PM
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Thanks for the replies. It's hard to imagine fellow sisters that used to live together trying to kill each other.
The Mighty Carpenter
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FLechdrop |
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Minor Worker Ant Posts: 100 09/30/2004 9:03 AM
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But that's just from your human point of view.
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Teleutotje |
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Henchant Posts: 1904 04/15/2005 10:40 AM
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One of the things that determines the smell of colony-members is their food . In the wild they will eat different things than in your ant-farm and so , after some time , they don't recognize their old colony-members as sisters but as " enemies " .
Teleutotje
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pallab1234 |
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Adult Worker Ant Posts: 244 04/15/2005 12:36 PM
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It is difficult to conclude in my opinion. It depends on the species probably, because across different species the mechanism of colony odor generation may be different.
Also the invasive species make super-colony across continents, where member from one colony takes others as friend. |
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bounty80 |
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Loyal Worker Ant Posts: 591 04/15/2005 1:01 PM
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In my experience, I have had a colony kill eachother after only a day or so of separation.
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Teleutotje |
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Henchant Posts: 1904 04/17/2005 6:53 AM
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Those big " super-colonies " of invasive species are colonies with a very high number of queens . Workers of most of these don't keep up with the smell of the individual insect but with the species-smell . E.g. Solenopsis invicta with numerous queens , Linepithema humile , Monomorium pharaonis , .....
Other species with a very big number of queens also look after the colony-smell . E.g. Formica polyctena . Teleutotje
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antdude |
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Posts: 17018 04/17/2005 7:05 AM
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carpenterant: I just noticed this thread was posted in general discussion forum.
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Locutus |
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Posts: 140 04/18/2005 1:05 AM
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Teleutotje: have you done any experiments proving this thesis? For example transferring F. polyctena worker from one colony to another?
Regards LOKI |
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