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08/05/2009 3:48 PM
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08/07/2009 5:49 PM
You are talking logic and as I have written earlier on
in this thread the planet lives in a state of flux.
There are fundamental floors with what you are saying
as well. Earlier I wrote a reply to ILoveTheAnts and pointed out in a simplified way the same as what you are saying, but you have gone beyond what I was
saying in my reply earlier. I was careful not to go where you have now gone in your argument and I had a feeling someone would say what you have
First back to Markm.
No I do not think you are off topic and what you are
saying is a problem and in laws there are the Grey Areas and this is one of them. I can not answer your grey area of US Law.
Yes it comes down to the ridiculous too as I am sure in some places there may be one end of the street is in
one state and the other end of the street in another state. One farm field and farm in one state and as you walk 20 paces you are in the next state.
The problem may be that if you had 12 states joined and
at one end you had a pogo ant, if a deferent person in each state just passed the queen on, then the pogo ant would end up in the 12th state where
the species does not live at all. It is always difficult for those people making the rules where to draw the line. So I guess it stops at the state line. I am
sure you US people all have your own opinions on this.
Back to antscanada
In the world of academia / academic life it is very
easy to design all kinds of ideas and theories and create some impressive arguments. Like Life Will Go
On, the strong species will survive and I really don't want to quote you and simply people
can read your last reply. It all sounds rather lovely and we should all thus sit back and stop worrying.
When your grand children then say to you where were you
daddy when all those lovely species died out I guess your reply will be I sat on my deck chair having a beer and having a good old time.
This is where real science splits the children with an
ology from those that have the ability to look beyond those shallow silly thoughts. antscanada no one knows the real answers to the future and you are waffling
all over again. An ology eutopia... So basically all our Ape species should die out because you have a FEELING somewhere that it's ok, it's Natural... so the Tiger must go to along with the polar bear as well..
And guess what it don't matter if we loose all
those native Ants species Hell no, they just could not cut it!
I guess if we looked back 2,000 years ago you would
still be the person ploughing the fields with the arse bone of a giraffe while your fellow man had invented an excellent plough. In other words you would have
been watching the Farming but not really improving the farming methods. You would be saying don't worry someone will invent the wheel some day I just have
a feeling somewhere... it will all sort its self out...
So all those people running around in the Amazon trying
to save zillions of species should all down tools & take the bus home. Let all those amazing species of birds Croak, lay horizontal. You know what I am so
please you're into your music and not becoming the director of a Zoo.
You have not got a clue have you! If you stood up in a World Conference on Conservation on saving critically endangered species you'd be booed off the Lecture
Stage. The international science community would be really angry.
Can you not see what you are really writing, do you
really think it all through or is it all a sort of academic language that you and some friends have developed that saw you through University when it came to
real debate on animal species and our planet. You just said all that waffle and got applause from so many fellow students. If you came to a zoo and I was
sitting at the interview with collages and you went into talking about what you have written do you really think we would employ you.. Do you..
There is the University that some people go to and
study at and there is the real university of life where you just can not hide behind all that ology waffle.
Where people really work so hard on coming up with
creative ideas on saving species and combating animal illnesses. The very conference that Antdude has highlighted at the very Beginning of this topic is about
so many nations coming together to discuss real threats on invasive species, real science at work.
How come they don't just sit back in your utopia
deck chair and watch the world go by, because according to you the strongest will survive and yeah 100,000,000 species will disappear quite soon.... its
So why are so many people doing all that research in so
many countries, why are so many people working all over the planet on conservation programmes sleeping rough, getting little sleep and so many are unpaid doing
vital work to save some species of bird somewhere, or rain forests that must have so many Genus & species of Ants.
Is it perhaps that antscanada is correct and the whole
world is bonkers? You got an ology and yet all that teaching you received and you're not putting any of your skills
and knowledge back into the wheel of life.
Pardon the pun but I think it would fit your utopia
Why bother coming on any animal species forum, you
don't need to because you have all the answers and you have seen the future too.
Every ology has a utopia debate, the ideas are
interesting but they don't stand up and they don't work. The University of Life has so many people from all walks of life coming together because they
really care from the heart about our planet and most are unpaid as well.
08/07/2009 6:30 PM
In my opinion, in regards to this thread, people are
under the assumption that an ecosystem is stagnant, non-changing, non-evolving, non-resilient, non-coherant... that if left to be, it will remian unchanged
What are you
on about? Why do you think so many people are running around trying to save species and the planet?
and continue their species hence, that can wave that
triumphant flag of survival and adaptation and life.
Animals don't have flags to wave, they can barely breath and exist with so much pollution.
I think many might forget, that the entire globe is
constantly changing, adapting, rearranging to accommodate life, even in the "untouched" areas of the world.
you forgotten about the man made Global Warming and where are these untouched areas of the world. I have travelled to a lot of remote places on this planet and
it has all been touched by Man.
you see my point, Dream dream
dream , its all from some novel I think.
could read what antscanada has written and take it as a Given, as the truth, People could believe all
that twaddle. Only when someone comes along like me and points out so many other things to consider then his utopia
truth falls apart very quickly and people have to think differently. Virtually every Zoo on this planet is involved in
Conservation and if you were to agree with antscanada who by his admission has a University degree in Zoology... well the zoos may as well close there gates
and through away the keys..
But you know
What! not one of his arguments would convince Zoo Staff, Conservationist and Scientists to be handing over their keys.
I can not
look into a crystal ball but my argument is that every species of Ant has an important job and place on this planet. They should be protected and they do not
exist for nothing, there is a reason why they are here, along
with all the other animal species.
08/08/2009 6:05 PM
08/09/2009 6:45 AM
08/09/2009 7:06 AM
The biosphere is not in a state of
"equilibrium"; it is in the state of being eradicated at a rate so fast that if change is not made 1/2 the species of life on earth will be gone by
the end of the century.
hope all the readers that come onto this topic & thread read what huntstunt has written and that they also understand what he has written is true and that
is why we all need to make so many changes to the way we think and treat our environments and the Planet. ½ our
species on this planet will be wiped out if we do not make changes, stop the cutting down and burning of Rain forests, stop the pollution, and sort out the
causes of Global Warming, Which is man made.
That's right bow out after you have wrote
so many misleading arguments and wrote so much utter waffle. Shear nonsense. Do you realise the damage you could cause
if people like me and huntstunt had not written anything on this topic / thread. People could and some would believe
you when you write such Bull, about the planet is in a state of equilibrium and
Planet in NOT in a state of equilibrium, How on Earth antscanada with a degree in Zoolology can write such tripe. You are the one who should be up and at the
forefront of these issues, not writing misleading dreamy utopia nonsense. To be honest it has been shocking what you have written.
spent years convincing very big corporations to hand over millions in US dollars to donate to conservation projects and it takes some simple idiots like you to
make your arguments and claims which then big business people believe and use arguments like you 'res so they get out of Giving huge sums of money to so
many projects saving species and investing in Science projects to save our planet.
already have wrote people like you antscanada are dreaming and make up these theories, ideologies and do nothing about spending their own Money, Time, Efforts in saving any species but just sit back in their deck chairs watching the world go by and
inventing more waffle and tripe.
is O so easy. Shame on you because the younger people those students learning vital things as students could so easily
be mislead with complete nonsense.
So now you are just going to burry your head in the Sand, after I have had to write so
much and put so much effort into saying NO your Wrong.
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I think this topic is a great insight as to why I think it is so risky to allow the
ant trade and worth a read no matter your opinion. Even if you don't agree with me, you have to admit someone buying ants with this kind of attitude is a
danger. All I can say is I'm glad he doesn't live in the States.
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if i wanted a species from orlando florida and i live in newyork longisland how would i obtain a red queen with mounds at least 3 inches high
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